Father’s Day gifts are usually pretty dumb, in all honesty. How many grilling aprons, beer cozies, and golf-pun T-shirts can one dad endure? Especially one that doesn’t golf? For this Father’s Day, I called my dad and asked him 20 questions. The questions all centered around how he dealt with being the father of a 15-year-old girl who was physically, mentally, and sexually abused for 11 months.

I’ve always been curious about how he went through it all. Even though he wasn’t the direct victim of my abuser, he and my whole family endured trauma, when my abuser began to break into my house and threaten the safety of my entire family. My dad was a hero through it all—he never faltered in his immense ability to help me with whatever I needed, regardless of how difficult it must have been on him. He and my mom both stayed strong and didn’t let my depression consume them, like it did me. Through it all, he became one of my best friends, and someone I will never stop saying “thank you” to. Here is an excerpt of our conversation:

This question was interesting, and didn’t render the response I thought it would. I didn’t realize that we were totally all in the dark. It makes the whole thing a bit scarier, honestly…

Me: At what point did you realize [my abuser] and I were not a normal relationship? Did you feel like you could or should do anything about it when you realized it?

Dad: “In full honesty, it depends on what you mean by normal. I did not have the slightest clue in my mind that it was abusive. I don’t know how much of that was my blindness… I know that what bothered us the most was feeling that you were becoming so obsessed with him. That’s what I saw. We didn’t see that from him, we saw it through you, we were clearly missing what was going on. We didn’t sense anything about that this was actually coming from him. It was coming from you in a context that I was completely oblivious to. You were becoming not you.

One night, nine or so months into my relationship with my ex, I broke down and told my mom that “we had had sex”. At this point, I didn’t realize it was actually rape, because no one had ever really defined what rape was. I thought it meant I had to be drugged or beaten or forced. I didn’t know that coerced, convinced, and manipulated meant raped. I know that now.

Me: When I first told you guys I had had sex with [my abuser], did you suspect it was actually rape? How did hearing that make you feel?

Dad: When you first told us… no clue that it was rape. The interesting thing here is that, I don’t know, I mean, we talked about how you were such a smart aware girl and how could you get trapped into this? Well we’re pretty smart aware parents, but… I don’t think the concept of rape or abuse coming from him… it wasn’t on my radar screen.

After my relationship had ended, and when I was in my deepest depression, my dad took me to New York for a week. This was right after my parents took me out of school for almost a month. I just wasn’t getting better.

Me: What came out of you taking me to New York?

Dad: I learned from you more about what you were going through, stuck in a motel room with you in New York as you were going through this, and making some mistakes, and then realizing that I made a big mistake, and being that close with you during all of that. I have to say for me it was really important. It’s what gave me the deepest understanding of what you were going through and a sense of what we needed to do to help you through it. Probably the worst week of your life, and certainly a very intense week of my life. Really was when I realized how bad things were for you.

While I was in New York with my dad, I remember there was a day where I was so depressed I couldn’t speak. I had to write him a note at lunch, on a napkin. In it, I told him I felt like “a sleepwalker with the incapacity to dream”. He still has that napkin. That was probably the worst day of my depression.

Me: What was the most surprising aspect about going through all of this?

Dad: I have to say the most surprising is what happened with your friends. That just came as such a sledgehammer…. It’s when I realized just how all pervasive this was, and how things can just come from left field, totally just unbelievable.

My friends reacted, well, awfully. They didn’t believe me, first of all, which was the hardest part of how they reacted. They also tried to actively make my life worse. I quickly realized that they were toxic parts of my life and tried to disassociate from them.

Me: Why do you think [my abuser] did this to us?

Dad: I don’t think anyone believes that what they’re doing is evil to anyone. They are acting compulsively, or with some twisted idea that they have a right to do it, or they are somehow in the right. There’s lots of general explanations: the culture, the inherent misogyny that boys have, not realizing that that’s what it is, but I think he just felt like he had a right to you in some kind of twisted way, and for him, “love” was ownership, domination, control. That’s the best way I could say it.

Me: If [my abuser] was your son, could you still love him?

Dad: Jesus. I don’t know if love is the right word. I have to say I would want to devote as much of a fight to change him as I did to save you. I think that’s what I would do.

It’s been 5 years since everything with my ex started. Since then, I have founded an organization that uses dance and other art forms as tools to teach high schoolers about abusive relationships, and to help heal survivors. My dad references it in his next answer, and you can learn more about it here.

Me: If you could go back in time and change something before [my abuser] that might prevent this from happening, what would you do? Do you think it would have worked?

Dad: Thinking about it now, I would fight to make something like The Sunflower Project something that happens in every middle school and high school. That would be the only thing that would make a difference.

A lot of people have heard alarming statistics about how likely it is for a woman to be raped in her lifetime, but what’s more upsetting and surprising is that a large portion of those women are raped before they are 18, and a lot of those perpetrators are also under the age of 18.

Me: How did you explain what was happening to your friends? Your relatives? Any surprising responses?

Dad: In tears. It was almost impossible for me to describe what was going on without breaking down. The most surprising reactions, which shouldn’t have been surprising but they were, but they came from Mom’s contacts. Sure enough, one of her best friends wrote back saying ‘I had a very similar experience in high school and no one knew about it’. The surprising reaction is how common it is.

Before the final question, I just want to say that my dad is a hero to me. He’s been through an immense amount of pain in his life, and I might never understand what it was like to be a father going through something like this. But for this Father’s Day, try to put yourself in your dad’s shoes—ask yourself (or better yet, ask him) what it was like for him to continue growing and learning as he was also a father to you. What was it like for him to watch you win? To watch you fail? What was it like for him to hear you cry? To laugh with you? Chances are, I might never understand what being my father was like, but just the act of validating his experiences by showing him I care about what it was like for him to go through this, well, maybe that’s enough.

Me: Do you know that you saved my life?

Dad: I do know that. Yes, I do know that.